Sometimes I Like to Have Fun and Giggle

"XXX" has provided me with many laughs over the months. Sure he has written vile, name calling posts that I have allowed myself to sometimes become irritated. I did get a bit upset when, trying as I did, I couldn't get him to budge from his plan that took months for him to finally create and post on MY blog.

"XXX" finally weighed in on the CAC's actions and he really doesn't care what anyone other than himself thinks, and doesn't give a crap about how OUR community feels about the Ponte Vista issue.

But sometimes it is good, I feel, to continue to illustrate the rage and pathetic writing of someone who maybe in league in some way with Bob and Bob should know about it, but wishing to remain blind to some truths has been obvious for some time with Bob and he has published some of those untruths for all of us to read, and keep on file.

Below are three comments, one from "XXX" himself, about what the CAC was supposed and what it did. We get to see "XXX" correct himself, something he rarely does because he probably believes he know everything about everything.

Let's take another look into the raging mind of whoever this person really is:

Anonymous said...
It is not a committee's job to come up with a development plan. They rejected the number of units proposed and said that they advise keeping the current zoning of R-1. They are not developers, planners etc. Now it is the developers job to go back to the drawing board and submit a plan within those guidelines, allowing the number of units that adhere to the current zoning. I believe they did their job whether you agree with the outcome or not.

July 28, 2007 10:31 PM

Tom said...
Anonymous July 28, 2007 10:31 PM Yes, you are correct.

It was not the committee's job to come up with a development plan. What they WERE supposed to do was come up with suggestions on what they would like to see built.

Check the record, you'll see that is exactly what Janice Hahn said.

But the R-1 gang and their intimidation tactics succeeded in hijacking the process.

Look at some of the actions the committee took early on, recommending senior housing, recommending a shuttle-bus service, etc. They were headed in the right direction.

Until, that is, the R-1 thugs bullied them into believing something else.

Shame on them, and shame on Janice Hahn for letting it happen. She wants so much to be like her Daddy. But she'd better realize that to do that, she needs to start acting like him.

The only reason you believe they did their job is because you want R-1. I can guarantee if they had come out with a recommendation for something else, you'd be screaming your head off.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the outcome. The process was contaminated and mis-directed by the R-1 thugs.

Therefore any result which came out of it would be contaminated.

Tom Field

July 29, 2007 2:32 PM

Anonymous said...

"What they WERE supposed to do was come up with suggestions on what they would like to see built."

That's exactly what they did Tom. They want to see single family homes built. So are you saying that the CAC could have come up with suggestions of what they want to see built as long as it did not include R1? Also, the R1 folks "bullied" nobody. Maybe it was the bullying, arrogance or tactics of Bob Bisno or the attacks by Joe Donato that turned the CAC and Janice Hahn against the pro-development side. The R1 folks just helped legitimize the R1 stance.

One thing you don't seem to understand about this town, Tom, is that it's filled with allot of folks with a deep amount of pride in what San Pedro represents. Bob Bisno is not welcome here, and I think the community and our representative have spoken loud and clear. It would/will be great to see Bisno and Ponte Vista pack their bags and get out!!

P.S. - I was not a Janice Hahn fan prior to this, but what I am seeing in some of her actions (not just Ponte Vista) is that she does listen to the majority of the community. Good for her!!!
July 30, 2007 8:33 AM

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Now if anyone would like to debate or discuss with me what the CAC was supposed to do and what it actually did during its tenure, I would love it. You see, between "XXX" and me, only one of us was present at public and some closed meetings for the entire tenure of the CAC, starting before each public meeting and after the end of every single public meeting. I was never late or absent from any public and some of the closed meetings the CAC had.

If "XXX" doesn't remember the three sets of illustrations, the long drawn out discussions about what individual members would like to see at Ponte Vista, my comments regarding my wish for some senior housing, and many of the members real struggle to find a set of numbers of units that a majority of CAC members might have approved of, is simply but completely wrong about the CAC and its mission.

Bob Bisno is the one and only person who constantly sat in the way of the CAC's ability to come up with a range of numbers of units. It is as simple as that. Whenever we tried our best to suggest something that mentioned honest numbers, Bob was right there telling you and the rest of OUR community exactly what would be built at Ponte Vista, as a matter of fact and not opinion.

The bottom line that cannot and must not be ignored is that if "XXX" is not in league with Bob, he certainly acts like and agent for Bob's plans. We may even see Bob "compromise" to attempt to get through the Planning Department as 1,700-unit plan, after all.

"XXX" just can't seem to stop name calling. It appears that this individual has some real emotional and social problems, I believe. If he can't be civil to others, what does that say about what he really thinks about himself? Perhaps he doesn't like himself and he wants everyone else to feel as bad as he does. Oh yeah, I forgot. "XXX" knows everything about everything and he is a perfect person and the rest of us are only worth attacking.

And another thing, The thirteen-member CAC was compromised of four, as in two-plus two, members who supported R1 strongly. One individual was on the R1 side for a spell, then considered compromise, then back to being and R1 supporter.

So there were only five of the thirteen members, "XXX" that is NOT a majority, who finally were strongly supporting R1.

Two members were supportive all along for a much bigger development than the majority of members thought about. In looking back at the voting, one of the members represented business on the CAC, and the other represented a whole area of business community members.

The remaining six individuals struggled mightily to find some range of unit numbers that they felt OUR community could live with.

In the end, it was Bob who demonstrated that providing a reasonable compromise in total number of units, the six great members of the CAC who worked so very hard at finding compromise were left out in the open and without any good reason to further attempt to find some number Bob would object to, anyway.

The CAC's decisions came from Bob's actions and inaction, nothing more. Al, Sal, Jerry, John, Dan, and Jack worked their butts off trying to find some compromise range of numbers. Nobody on this planet can say those six great members of OUR community didn't try their best or work their hardest and they did the best they could do under incredible conditions.

OUR community should stand up, applaud eleven of the thirteen members of the CAC who voted the way they did and thank the two other individuals for the hard work they did supporting Bob's plans for a really big development. At least they tried, too.